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Willem Crazy Fowl

Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Battles: 2996 Location: Holland
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:19 am Post subject: Thai Gaichon versus Burmese Pama |
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I often hear about the Pama on our Ganoi website. My question : what are the physical differences (for example size, weight, type) between the Gaichon and the Pama ? Do both varieties have a specific fighting style to ? I would appreciate a good picture of a typical Pama posted in the gallery.
PS : I dont want to know which variety is the best of the two !!!
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Willem Crazy Fowl

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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: Come on friends |
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I am baffled, countless postings about Pama birds on the Ganoi forum but no reaction on my topic / question. Just wanna know the difference between the Thai Gaichon and the Burmese Pama ! Dont be "shy" give me some feedback folks !
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Dr.A.Ali Guest
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:25 am Post subject: |
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go to the site gaichonthai.com there will be a whole host of links in it,browse through all the web boards u will find many pics of pama fowl.
they r the ones with tails carried high like bankiva breeds,light built something like in between asian and bankiva breeds.
but the language on all these sites is local so wont be able to understand anything. |
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Willem Crazy Fowl

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: Sallam Dashan |
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Sallam Dashan,
Thanks for the hint but it would be nice if our Thai/Burmuse/Laotion or Cambodian Ganoi friends would give me some insider details. Your right some interesting pics are posted but the story and facts behind these breeds are of my interests too !
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Ironclaw Battle Fowl
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Battles: 1025
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Pama is often use in here by the Hmong members. Pama is the translation for Burmese gamefowl.
this picture is a fine example of a Burmese. Notice his distinctive tail. |
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Willem Crazy Fowl

Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Battles: 2996 Location: Holland
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: Pama details |
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Thanks Superrooster.
What are the weights for a Pama ?
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pamax Divine Fowl
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Battles: 14521
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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pama are light weight birds. pure pama in burma and thailand usually don't go over 6lbs. they also have a light frame and smaller structure. they are known for their fast beaks and accurate kicks. there style is more of a bob and weave and shuffle. they rarely come in to wrestle. the typical pama color is the grey color, but they can also come in red.
hopefully this gives you a little more insight on the pama/burma breed. |
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Xue Chick
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Battles: 487
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Nobody can tell you because us guys in the US only see what was brought over. And those may or may not be representative of the breed.
My wife's uncle is a breeder of Burmese in Thailand. I have a small video of the birds he raises. Most are high tailed birds similar to a spanish/asil cross used in Puerto Rico. Not fully bankivoid, but somewhere in the middle.
From past conversation's I've had with both Thailand and Burma breeders, they all agree the Burmese is of lesser quality when comparing the two. Both have a history of cockfighting and there's no reason to believe they haven't interbred until recently.
As far as the popularity and success of the burmese cross in recent years go, I haven't been able to pinpoint the root of how or who started this phenomenon. The Thai and Burma breeders I know were in the States when the burmese crosses took off. |
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FlatTopBruiser Divine Fowl

Joined: 14 Mar 2007 Battles: 7976 Location: CA
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Nobody can tell you because us guys in the US only see what was brought over. And those may or may not be representative of the breed.
My wife's uncle is a breeder of Burmese in Thailand. I have a small video of the birds he raises. Most are high tailed birds similar to a spanish/asil cross used in Puerto Rico. Not fully bankivoid, but somewhere in the middle.
From past conversation's I've had with both Thailand and Burma breeders, they all agree the Burmese is of lesser quality when comparing the two. Both have a history of cockfighting and there's no reason to believe they haven't interbred until recently.
As far as the popularity and success of the burmese cross in recent years go, I haven't been able to pinpoint the root of how or who started this phenomenon. The Thai and Burma breeders I know were in the States when the burmese crosses took off. |
Hey, I know who brought over the red burmese family into the states and the whole history of these birds. my dad brought them over in 2000. wanna know more, email thoza1@aol.com _________________ Live for today
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Stricker Battle Fowl

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Battles: 1872 Location: Malaysia
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Typical pama breed for reference _________________ View to Believe |
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johnv Vicious Fowl
Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Battles: 3992 Location: NE Scotland
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Willem looking at xxfobxx sumatra cross,cos it back to asil and compare to first pic posted? |
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boby Battle Fowl

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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that "PAMA" from stricker looks more like a duckwing OEG to me. shows how much i know about pama's lol.
very interesting posts. |
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Willem Crazy Fowl

Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Battles: 2996 Location: Holland
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: Hello Stricker |
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Stricker, thanks for your posting of a Pama picture. Interesting type. What weight is your line ?
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johnv Vicious Fowl
Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Battles: 3992 Location: NE Scotland
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| Raeberac vearing moreto modern game I would say |
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Stricker Battle Fowl

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Battles: 1872 Location: Malaysia
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: |
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My line is in between 2.5kg to 2.8kg. My brood is a blue red pama which it's fighting style is 90% front free kick, always fight front with a distance. Head hunter (beak, ear and eye). Less advantages if fighting with a body hitter because they have thin bone. _________________ View to Believe |
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gldtor Crazy Fowl
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Battles: 2299 Location: Cyber
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
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willem
i have some pama mix but they still retain a lot of the characteristics of the pamas in asia. my pama hen is very small around 3-4 lbs. i would have said that this is a bantam hen if i wasn't the breeder. when i get a chance, i will take a couple of pictures of the stags and post them. |
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gilly Chick
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Battles: 430
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| pama roosters are good, fast and accurate but they tend to not last long or should i say they dont have a lot of stamina when fighting in the ring |
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gilly Chick
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| pama roosters are fast and accurate but they tend to not last very long in the ring |
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gilly Chick
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| pama roosters are fast and accurate but the down part about them is they dont tend to last long in the ring |
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